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zero in on a state with very different concerns, nevada. it, too, has six electoral votes up for grabs, but unlike iowa nevada is racked by the housing market and has the highest unemployment in the nation. why does the president hold a slim lead in the silver state? let's put it through the spin cycle. i think we all have nevada going blue? >> yes. >> remarkably, we all agree on something. >> we all agree on nevada. >> never happened before. >> yeah. i have it going blue because primarily because of early voting. early voting in nevada has 48,000 more democrats than republicans going to the polls in early voting, casting 700,000 votes. if projections go as planned and they get an 80% turnout, that means 70% of the votes have already been cast there. so me, that seems a pretty good indication of where this state is going. i'll give sail ver lia silver l mitt romney, and that is a lot like colorado. nevada has a very high mormon population. 7%, which is actually fairly high, and again, mormons accounted for a quarter of the electorate in the caucuses. so i think if they turn out in big
of these states, in particular in iowa and nevada, democrats have it locked up with early vote. in ohio they have a good position with early vote, but it depends on who turns out. republicans are coming out in big numbers in the rural areas, and the question i think for democrats is, how do we do in those urban areas, it particular the top ten counties? the thing i would like to stress is, you know, when you have an election that is this close and it's pretty obvious to say that the obvious, but it is going to be turnout, and democrats have got to be really focused and that is individual democrats coming out to vote. do not believe that this thing is over by any stretch of the imagination. this is going to be a very tight election. >> who doesn't believe that at this point, chris? >> you know, i sometimes hear when i see these pundits talk about their forecasts about what the election is going to be, i get it. if you look at the real clear politics averages, you can make that prediction. i'll make that prediction and think president obama will win. when you have so many polls clustered around the
in the battleground blitz in wisconsin, nevada, and colorado. when he makes his final campaign stop in des moines, iowa, at a rally with the first lady, that's the only stop that she joins him on. the president will have visited eight of the nine battleground states. the one that he's not going to is north carolina. the 2012 presidential election could hinge on this, will the firewall of iowa, ohio, and wisconsin hold up? and you only have to look at the president's travel over the last five days of the campaign to find out that's where the campai campaign believes the race will be decided. one of them has to be the state of ohio. the president has events in ohio four out of five days on the trail. he stopped in iowa, wisconsin, and colorado two times, each will be in florida and virginia, new hampshire, nevada just once before this campaign is over. today the president will begin laying out what aides say is his closing argument, making a stronger case for government. he will point to the way forward to real change. it will say this apparently in his stump speech that will create a stronger futu
. leading by more than 2 in nevada, ohio and iowa. as a slighter margins in new hampshire and colorado, governor romney only leads in more at a point in florida and is narrowly ahead in virginia. that gives a reason for them to, let's say, be concerned. >> they need to be concerned because it is not just the enthuse yack enthuse em that's missing p. this is what barack obama does better than anyone else. man test right now in the early vote of look at nevada, north carolina, iowa. mitt romney with needs to win 54 to 60% of the remaining votes in the states in order to drop into the victory. that's a huge lift. i think when you couple the fact that democratic base is much more fired up with the fact that obama for america has been organizing for the last four years. they keep talking about pennsylvania, you can't drop into pennsylvania the weekend before an election, and expect to tip the vote just by buying ads when you have the other team with a fantastic ground operation. >> drive by campaigning won't do it. when you look at pennsylvania, bob, romney and ryan are both visiting pennsy
're going today, and iowa, where he closes it out, this is without nevada, this puts him at 271, this what is they believe is their fastest, most narrowest path. now, why is romney doing what he's doing with florida today? virginia. don't forget north carolina is one that they're counting on. new hampshire and then ohio. because ohio, look at that, it's right on the number. if all the states he visits today he carries, that's what he's doing. both of them are visiting, andrea, their narrowest paths to 270. i took you to the 271 path for the president, and then you saw the 270 path if you will for romney. now everything in between, what's a great night for the president, take you to that quickly. that would mean, winning ohio, but the one state i think they feel the least bit about is in north carolina. leave florida in romney's column. i think ultimately this is what we're looking at. something right in the 300 range is most realistic good night for the president. you go to mitt romney and what they think their most realistic be good night and why you see he has a little higher ceiling, br
, hitting three states today. this morning it was wisconsin. right now he's en route to nevada. and later this evening, it is on to colorado. in what advisers call a slightly altered but affirmative stump speech, the president has promised to lay out his case of who he's fighting for and why. >> retraining at the age of 55 for a career in biotechnology. she needs a champion. >> and these are live pictures now from where governor romney is on the ground in virginia, in the southern part of the state. it is the governor's second event, by the way, of the day there. earlier today in central virginia, the governor resumed his message that he is the change candidate. this election, something he started before the storm. >> if the president were to be re-elected, you're going to see high levels of unemployment continue and stalled wage growth, if any wage growth at all, just like we've seen over the last four years. >>> and we're also getting a look at a new round of battleground polls all showing the president leading or running neck and neck with governor romney. in iowa the president is ahea
in wisconsin, iowa, and nevada. let me ask you specifically about nevada. we see -- as karen was saying, strong early voting advantages. mitt romney appears not to be making any stops there over the next three days. do you der rooifr anything from that sfl. >> i derive a lot from the early voting numbers and i think the fact that romney is not going there is quite telling. nevada is probably almost gone. and the way that the demographics have shifted in nevada this may be the last election where nevada is really in play for republicans. there's also an interesting thing that happened there on the ground. ron paul supporters sort of took over the republican party in nevada and kind of destroyed it in a way. the groundwork there is really poor for the republican party to the extent that the idaho republican party has actually been sending mail into the state. that's how bad it is. >> so why is mitt romney going to pennsylvania? >> well, i think he's looking at the fact that he can't win in ohio, he's behind there. even his people are sort of acknowledging that that's falling off the map. he has t
in wisconsin and colorado and nevada. he's certainly going to recognize the victims of this storm at the top of his remarks and note that this was a time for democrats and republicans to come together and take care of those victims of the storm. thing the state of ohio, we've seen a little bit different tone from mitt romney this week. he's gotten himself into a battle with gm and chrysler. he said that chrysler is going to shut down jeep production in the state of ohio and scared a bunch of workers in the region. the auto companies have made clear that's absolutely not true. i think we've seen a little bit of desperation in his closing message. >> and we have seen a slight swing for the president in our new swing state polls. i'm sure you saw what karl rove wrote today. in the last days of the presidential race, he says they favor mitt romney. the democrats are making a mistake because they're counting on inconsistent voters who may well not turn out. could turn out be the difference in this election? does karl rove have a point? >> well, i think turnout will make the difference in this ele
're going to win nevada. we're going to win new hampshire. i think we have an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. and it also could be close. >> check those numbers, what do you make of those states? is that a good list? >> i think the ceiling is somewhere 300, 303 if you want to be exact the numbers i've done. if you throw in north carolina it could be 318 max. that's possible. they could all be 51, 49 at the end of the day. i do want to say i think a lot of us, we're sort of victims of 2004. before 2004 we were all more convinced of the challenger incumbent rule. that somehow challengers always got the undecided and then a tie goes to the challenger. then you're happened when bush won frankly as many of the undecided as he did. then you'd have to go back to '76 the last time the person with momentum lost at the end. lost the popular vote. that was ford. ford had the momentum but carter won in the end. even gore, he had the last-second momentum. he did win the popular vote. having the momentum has it in the end. >> what's it going to mean for obama
states, iowa, montana, nevada, and utah, two of them are going to be watched really closely. those, of course, are iowa and nevada. the "real clear politics" polling average in iowa right now shows president obama ahead by two and in nevada president obama ahead by 2.7. then later in the night at 11:00 p.m. and then 1:00 a.m., we'll have california, hawaii, idaho, oregon, washington, and then the last poll closing in alaska. unless this is a very strange night, those races will be interesting for governors races and senate and house races and state issues, but not necessarily for the presidency. unless things go very, very differently than expected to go. this is how your election viewing is going to unfold hour by hour on tuesday night. if you just exclude the states for the presidential race where everybody pretty much knows exactly how it's going to go and just the states where there is some question as to what's going to happen, here is a clip and save thing for you about these states. the battlegrounds. all right? states that you know are going to be important and everybody th
to hold. >> ohio? >> you skipped on me. >> nevada. >> nevada. close but to dean heller. >> all right. next one? >> ohio. it's closed up but brown wins. >> does he outperform the president by what, two points? >> i don't know. >> yeah, yeah. >> if you were to guess, it's going to be a tight race? >> florida, nelson beats mak. then we get to virginia. >> where are you there? >> i guess i would give kane maybe a tiny finger on the scale. >> give it to blue? >> i don't know. >> we'll put it there for now. that gets us through the presidential toss-ups. let's go to the red states if you will. these are a ton of great states. >> flake wins. >> montana, that's scary. everybody, both sides say it's really too close. >> the libertarian candidate is going to make the winning number. >> it could. >> i guess he gets a couple. this guy john tester up a point or two and the question is does that save him? let's do edge tester. >> all right. next one? north dakota right next door. >> berg wins. it's very very close. >> the same way you feel about montana. >> yeah. >> not quite as close. >> yeah. >> let's
maintaining his lead in nevada. in iowa, president obama is still ahead. the national average is closer, but president obama has been on the rise there as well. so early voting has been going on for weeks now. in some states, and there are some interesting numbers on party breakdown of early voters so far. now, most early voters have been identified as democrats in ohio, nevada, iowa, florida, and north carolina according to the associated press. republicans have the edge in colorado. let's turn to bob shrum, professor of public policy at nyu and contributor to the daily beast. great to have you with us tonight. let's leave the names out oft for a moment. obama and romney. let's just take candidate a and candidate b. who would you want to be right now with the numbers playing? >> you would want to be candidate a assuming that's the unmentionable who is the president of the united states. he has a lot of roots to 270 electoral votes. if you look at candidate b, candidate b isn't even going to florida in the next few days. you can interpret that in one of two ways. a thinks he's already g
states, ohio, wisconsin, and nevada. if romney won basically everything else that's up for grabs in not these three states he would be short of 270. he would have 267. if you look at the clear averages in these three states these are persistent leads. ohio, wisconsin, nevada. are we at a point where the only hope for romney there's something wrong in the method oflg these state polls? >> i think we're about at that point opinion he has a couple of days left for him to make a come back. there isn't a single poll, a single nonpartisan poll in ohio, wisconsin or nevada that shows romney in the lead. and, yes, you know the polls have been wrong before and it's conceivable that things can be off. you can ask about sharon engel if polls are right. the overwhelming majority of the time when someone holds a lead of this magnitude, this consistently, they wine up winning. and, you know, there are reasons to think the polls could be off. it's tough to talk to people on cell phones. assumptions about turn out are more important than ever. but, yeah, you're right i think the polls have to be
not lose that other senate seat they might have lost in nevada, the old jon ensign seat that was given to dean heller. it stays with him. and while president obama carried 28 states last time, he carried 26 or 27 states this time, depending on how florida goes. that means republicans did lose everything else, but got back indiana and also north carolina. so it was not a totally hopeless night for republicans. also, hey, remember the crazy thaddeus mccotter seat in michigan, where thaddeus mccotter screwed up and they had to run this reindeer herder, santa claus impersonator for the seat, a guy whose own brother says he's crazy. that guy won. the shirtless reindeer guy won. so the republicans have him. big picture in the house, thanks mostly to redistricting the republicans were not in danger of losing the house, and they didn't legal cause it, even though the republican majority appears to have shrunk there. and even though they did get the reindeer guy. but in terms of, honestly, of what went well for republicans in this election, that was pretty much it. it is a short list. want to t
with the democratic leader, harry reid of nevada, as well as former majority leader and my good friend george mitchell of maine on this very question. i came away from these conversations reassured that my independence would be respected and that no party line commitment would be -- >> and there you have it, angus king giving his justification for joining the democratic caucus, so we will talk to democratic senator that was partially responsible for helping to get angus king ele elected. the race is on to line up political allies before negotiations start tuesday. the president met with the labor community today. he holds that first press conference since his re-election and will meet with congressional leaders at the end of the week, all of this because the one takeaway from the failed 2011 fiscal talks was the need to have an outside game. joining me now patti murray and a member of last year's super committee, the group that tried to reach a deal to avoid sequestrati sequestration. i apologize to come to you late wanting to get senator elect king's official announcement there that he's joining your
. >> and i have nevada in there. you live on the border of nevada and california. demographically gone for the republicans right now? >> this is a state that republicans should have won if we had the same hispanic turnout of the vote percentage under president bush, under john mccain. mitt romney would be ahead in nevada. it's not the case. president obama is going to win nevada. >> anybody here think the president will lose iowa? >> i think he's going to win iowa. and i changed my opinion on that. i thought he was going to lose iowa. >> you believe iowa. where do you fall? >> the president. >> look what this does here. this puts -- we put it up to 259 so th so then he's is 11 away. anybody thinks he's going to win florida? so you give romney this, florida. colorado, i think it will be the closest state in the country. >> i agree. >> where does it go? >> romney. >> romney wins. >> really close but romney. >> it might all come down to ohio. >> it may. and virginia we have sitting he here. so this could mean to me as a realistic scenario and i won't make you force these, hiohio, virginia
. you have this interesting dynamic formulating here, but overall when you look at nevada, for example, where foreclosures are up, the housing market is still struggling, unemployment up, the president could win nevada because of the latino vote there. >> that's true. i'll be honest with you, tamron. we've had this discussion before. i think my party is having a difficult time with the hispanic population, particularly in certain key areas. it's incumbent to make sure over the next several cycles we do everything we can to reach out to voters and talk about our shared interests and shared values and our shared principles. in this particular election i know that the economy and jobs the way hispanic families are hurting within this economy is what they take into account. it may not help us get to the point where we have a lion's share of the vote to help us win in certain key states, but it's the discussion we're having and move inning that direction about having that conversation. >> the conversation you're having year after year, george w. bush, karl rove, jeb bush all indicated the i
nevada, we're going to win new hampshire. i think we've got an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. >> don't just vote. bring your mom. bring your dad. bring your cousin. knock on the door of your neighbor. because let me tell you something, the middle class depends on it. it literally depends on it. >> the vice president took on mitt romney's latest lie about jeep sending jobs to china. >> scare the hell -- scare the heck out of these people and it's flat false. absolutely flat fall. it's the most cynical play i've seen and, you know, there is an editorial in the denver post saying this goes to character. it's not just a lie, but it goes to character. >> while most of the attention is on ohio, a record breaking crowd gathered in concord, new hampshire. president obama was joined by one of the best retail politicians in the business. former president bill clinton. >> 20 years and nine months ago, new hampshire began the chance for me to become president. i have worked very hard in this campaign. i worked hard in the last one, too. i did 40 even
, ones we know, florida, new hampshire, iowa, virginia, nevada, colorado, new hampshire, i think ohio belongs in that group. i put it on myself i should have put it in there a few days before now. >> mark halperin, take a look at nbc news poll, iowa, president up but wisconsin and new hampshire, we're talking about a really closely fought race. >> based on the totality of the public and private polling the only us in is on governor romney to depp street get to 270 electoral votes. i think governor romney starts with a challenge which is florida, north carolina, and colorado. if he can win those three, and i think he's got a decent chance in all, although the president hasn't given up on colorado and florida, then he needs to find a couple other -- a couple of options, one is to just win ohio. if he can't win ohio, and virginia also, he needs to win virginia also, okay, if he can't win ohio he needs to find another way. states of the three polls you showed as well as pennsylvania, michigan, he needs to offset a loss in ohio. ohio's the simplest and most competitive the reason they're l
to pick up pennsylvania. we have a good shot in virginia, new hampshire, new mexico, nevada, that's the pathway to victory for john mccain. we're excited. we're hoping to see a lot of people out there in chicago on election night with barack obama experiencing a long, cold night, that john mccain won. >> it's nice he wishes physical discomfort on his enemies. but notice what exactly he was so confidently predicting there. the day before the election in 2008, it was mitt romney. these were his predictions for states that john mccain was definitely going to win. >> john mccain is leading in the states he's got to lead in like ohio and florida. we'll pick up pennsylvania. we think we have a good shot at virginia, new hampshire, new mexico, nevada. that's the pathway to victory for john mccain. >> see how all those states were blue? his confident predictions that john mccain was going to win all those states in 2008 were wrong in every single instance. they lost every single one of those states. even though it seemed like he was going to win all of those states the day before the elec
will be in wisconsin, where he is right now, with nevada, colorado, ohio, iowa, virginia, and florida. of course, they're sending their number one surrogates, the vp nominee, out where they're not going. is this the map, centered in ohio, virginia, and florida, is it still where the action is? >> it is for governor romney for sure. it's always been the case that governor romney needs to win florida, needs to win virginia, and pretty much needs to win ohio. even then he still needs to pick up another state somewhere along the way. you can see in his map that he's spending months of his time in florida, virginia, and ohio and a little bit of time in one of those other states that he thinks he might be able to get a pickup, whether that's wisconsin, whether that's colorado. those are the states he thinks he has the best chance. he's not spending time in iowa. he'll spend two different trips -- ending his campaign in new hampshire. he has an event in new hampshire over the weekend. he thinks he might be able to pick up there. that tells you a lot. i know a lot of republicans had hoped governor romney woul
of the day it all comes down to turnout. in a state like nevada, more than 70% will vote by election day we have a 70,000 vote lead there. we have more than 100,000 vote advantage in the bank at this time. we signed up more than 6,600 volunteer shifts for the get out the vote program. it all comes down to turnout in the final hours. >> well, you have the turnout, it looks like. if these early voting hours have been cut, how much concern is that to you? >> well, we have a voter protection team on the ground and right here in chicago that took quick action in florida yesterday. miami-dade and palm beach announced early voting tomorrow. so we're going to make sure that everybody's vote counts. if you're in line, stay in line. we're going to make sure it happens through the final hours. >> the romney campaign says it has numbers showing that they're going to win ohio. is that a bluff? >> well, i think we heard a lot of bluffing from the romney campaign for days that says they have an intensity advantage on their side. look no further than the fact that mitt romney spent the day in the state of
view, alex, is that the western states of nevada and colorado with a huge hispanic vote and the support the president has from the hispanic community is a huge factor. in florida i can't predict. it's very close there. but it's up to the ground game. what i have seen, for instance, in florida the volunteers and campaigns of president obama four years ago it was mostly young people. this time it's more people, but young people, senior citizens, soccer moms, veterans, a larger turnout getting out that vote. and i think that's what's going to be decisive. >> you know what's interesting about the hispanic vote, there are 4 million more registered la kn tee knows. but i want to ask about your state. how do you think the president is going to perform in swing states like colorado and nevada? >> well, my view is that that hispanic vote, which is key in my state with 43%, it's key in nevada and colorado upwards of 20%, is going to come out in huge turnout because of the president's strong records are hispanics on job creation, health care, and immigration reform. and the perception that the rom
at least four of those battleground states pretty much in the bag. they think nevada, wisconsin, iowa, and new hampshire are all pretty much in the president's column. they feel like ohio is almost certain to go for them. and that, obviously, would give them more than 270 electoral votes there. they think they are a little ahead in virginia. i feel pretty confident about virginia, they think colorado and florida are -- they think colorado and florida are pure toss-ups right now. they could win those, they might lose them and as i said, north carolina's the only one of the nine battleground states where they are pessimistic, but the rest they feel good about. and when you think about that altogether, that's why they feel really self-assured they're going to win the electoral college tonight if not the popular vote. >> can you imagine? to finish out the two tiny villages in new hampshire, 23 votes for president obama, nine for romney, and tonight, the polls begin closing in eastern in kentucky at 6:00 eastern time. our first big clue on how the election might unfold will come at 7:00 wh
touched down in las vegas in the battleground state of nevada. the president is expected to come down those stairs at any moment. the campaign -- a day after witnessing the devastation of hurricane sandy and just five days before the election, nevada will be the second of three stops today for the president, which began in wisconsin and will ultimately end in colorado. and here with a preview of the last days of campaigning is nbc's kristin welker who is awaiting the president in las vegas. kristin, we've been hearing some conservatives complain about the president's excellent working relationship with republican new jersey governor chris christie in the aftermath of the storm. how is the white house handling those complaints? >> well, martin, good afternoon. the white house publicly is saying they're not going to comment on the complaints or the president's visit really, what it could mean politically, because they say this is not a time for politics. i can tell you privately though that both democrats and republicans were a little bit surprised by governor christie's tone yesterday.
built was one to wia a close race. but if you look at nevada, iowa, ohio, florida, virginia, new hampshire, colorado, all of these states we think the president is in a good position to win. and we think governor romney is playing defense. he is spending his last day in florida and virginia on monday. states that they were telling you in the media a few weeks ago they thought were done deals. they are far from done deals. i'd rather be the president today than romney in terms of those two states.. >> i talked about the american firewall for president obama. you seem to be up in ohio at least a couple of points based on polling i've seen. a new poll from "the des moines register" has you up five in iowa. do you believe ohio and iowa are done deals in the president's column? >> david, not until the polls close. so we feel good about our position in both those states. we think we have done terrific in terms of the early vote. it's important to understand, for governor romney to win ohior iowa, north carolina, he'll have to carry election day by a huge margin, and we think we'll do v
, something like that. iowa, we're going to win wisconsin, nevada, we're going to win new hampshire. i think we have a chance of winning virginia and florida. it could be a big win. and it also could be close. >> joining me now, msnbc/"time" magazine nbc political analyst mark halperin. we just went through all those polls. the national polls, we know it's not a national referendum, but they all tell the same story. it's tied. the president seems to be leading but all within the margin of error. where is this race one day out? >> all within the margin of error. the obama campaign argued from the beginning that they're stronger in the swing states, they've targeted those states from the beginning. they don't look at the national number. in those swing states like in ohio they've targeted white working class voters on the auto bailout. and some of other battle ground states they've targeted hispanics and younger voters and african-americans and women. the president's team has a logic to what they've done. until we see the actual results, there's reason to believe that they're stronger in the b
're going to win iowa, i think we're going to win wisconsin, nevada, new hampshire. i think we've got an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. and it also could be close. >> good morning. look at that, how beautiful. we are here. we are here. what are we, a day away? this is so exciting. good morning, everyone. >> he said it wasn't going to be close. and then he said it was going to be close. maybe he was talking about president clinton. >> it's monday, november 5th, the day before election day. we have with us mike barnicle, senior political analyst, mark halperin, willie's just walked in. i don't know why you're laughing. >> me? >> no, mike. >> this lighting is disturbing. i don't know who did it. i don't like it. i'm just going to say that right up front. but i'm happy this weekend -- today because this weekend there was a huge sporting event that all the world tuned to. and i can tell you i've never been more proud of the vanderbilt commodores, dudley stadium. >> no, they went on the road and did that. they went to kentucky, to commonwealth stadium
states, florida, iowa, nevada. republicans hold an edge in colorado. democrats are mobilizing their voters effectively. will that trend hold on election day and how much of a difference will it make? i find something fascinating on the focus of turnout. turnout and field operations were the redheaded stepchild of campaigns. all the money, glamour and glory were in tv ad buzz. things started to change. the republicans instituted a get out and vote program that was effective in 2004, particularly. there was a thing called 72-hour project. it was karl rove's project. there was act in 2004. you know, it's funny. people forget when talking independent expenditures. there was a different universe in 2004 on the democratic side that was under 527 as opposed to super packs. it was done independent of the campaigns and largely field efforts. what's amaze sg the status of field increased. i think people are now persuaded in the world of politics of the importance of this. i think it's a kind that represents a change in opinions about how we think of these elections. act was not successf
are going to hold florida, virginia, nevada and colorado. what we are seeing is very high support for the president. so what we are seeing is about 74% of latinos saying they are either certain to or very likely to vote for the president and the worst case scenario, 64% of latinos are saying they are certain to vote for the president. is so with that, you are going to secure those states and don't forget, there is still a smattering of latinos in north carolina, wisconsin and iowa. 3%, 4%, but when it is so close, that 3% of mobilized latino turnout is going to make the difference. >> on, let's talk about pennsylvania because when we bring up close, pennsylvania right now, 47 to 47 in a state that normally, the president would have a comfortable lead in. stephanie cutter said on "morning joe" today that it's not realistic that governor romney should make a play for pennsylvania or even think about winning pennsylvania. what's your reaction to that? >> i'm glad they're giving governor romney advice because if he follows the advice, it will be the wrong advice. pennsylvania is in pl
states to get to 270. if you look at ohio, if you look at wisconsin, if you look at nevada, if you look at iowa, the president has been consist eventually in the lead there. and romney basically has to run the table to even have a shot. >> but the republican argument, ari, which was the john kerry argument, which has always been the argument in these situations, is when the incumbent polls below 50, the incumbent is in danger no matter what the other number is. so if the incumbent is at 48, the challenger is at 46, the chal enner is probably in a better position, most of the time. however, we're making new mathematical history in these campaigns all the time. and you can see that argument, because it's an old argument. it's been around a while. it didn't work for john kerry and it's hard to say what's going to happen now. >> yeah. i spent over a year working seven days a week for john kerry so i'm familiar with that argument, i remember that argument. i think the critical question then as now is whether the challenger is viewed to be credible by election day. if you look at polling of a
states, including new hampshire, be virginia, florida, wisconsin, colorado, and nevada. and today, a major endorsement coming from new york city's independent mayor michael bloomberg. no question, this is a close race but today in wisconsin the president went after one of the key points in governor romney's closing argument to voters. >> the closing weeks of this campaign, governor romney has been using all his talents as a salesman to dress up these very same policies that failed our country so badly. and he is offering them change. he's saying he's the candidate of change. well, let me tell you, wisconsin, we know what change looks like. and what the governor is offering sure ain't change. >> it sure ain't change. but governor romney is good at changing on every position and doing anything to win. on the trail, he's trying to sound warm and cuddly. he's now taking a soft attack. the new york times quoting him on the trail as saying, democrats love america, too. gee, governor. thanks for that. but that soft attack apparently ends there. because behind the scenes, republicans are
, nevada, new hampshire. i think we've got an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. it also could be close. but the firewall here of ohio, wisconsin, iowa -- >> talk to your stake holders. tell them what they should do on tuesday. >> if you can vote early, vote earlier. but don't just vote, bring your mom, your dad, bring your cousin, knock on the door of your neighbor. let me tell you something, the middle class depends on it. it literally depends on it, in my opinion. >> vice president joe biden, thank you for your time. good luck. >>> north carolina and colorado look pretty tough. coming up, where does the race stand? we have the results of the latest and last poll before the election. that's next. and we have our top people here tonight. chuck todd, howard fineman, eugene robinson and others. the big question is about big bill. if president obama does win re-election tuesday night, the person he can thank the most perhaps probably is the guy he was campaigning with in new hampshire, bill clinton, the big dog could be the one who pulls him over the f
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